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Ducked rating points for a game I didn't even know was on?

Usually, when black can't make the first move for a variety of reasons, the game is simply cancelled and players don't get penalized with rating points.

In this case (

https://lichess.org/WDm9iYdNaQIb
), I lost 50 rating points for a game I didn't even know was on. Is that normal?

In my opinion, if a player can't make the first move, the game should just be cancelled without any impact on either player's rating.

Thank your for your help!

Usually, when black can't make the first move for a variety of reasons, the game is simply cancelled and players don't get penalized with rating points. In this case (https://lichess.org/WDm9iYdNaQIb), I lost 50 rating points for a game I didn't even know was on. Is that normal? In my opinion, if a player can't make the first move, the game should just be cancelled without any impact on either player's rating. Thank your for your help!

Usually, the games are cancelled.
However, tournaments are an exception. In tournaments, if you do not play the first move within the stipulated time, the game is forfeited (as games cannot just have no result in an arena tournament)

Usually, the games are cancelled. However, tournaments are an exception. In tournaments, if you do not play the first move within the stipulated time, the game is forfeited (as games cannot just have no result in an arena tournament)

Usually, when black can't make the first move for a variety of reasons, the game is simply cancelled and players don't get penalized with rating points.

That's in lobby, this is a tournament. You probably went analyzing the previous game or stayed in the previous game tab, did not withdraw from the arena and did not realize you got paired.

I lost 50 rating points for a game I didn't even know was on. Is that normal?

Currently yes, it is. The high rating loss is because your rating is not established yet --> the system is uncertain about your true strength.

In my opinion, if a player can't make the first move, the game should just be cancelled without any impact on either player's rating.

On this I agree, although probably for a reason different than yours. My reason is that rating is not a trophy to show around, rather a metric to pair you with a similar strength opponent the next game.

Edit: about my last response, I was referring only to the rating part. Obviously, as #2 pointed out, a game must have a result in a tournament.

> Usually, when black can't make the first move for a variety of reasons, the game is simply cancelled and players don't get penalized with rating points. That's in lobby, this is a tournament. You probably went analyzing the previous game or stayed in the previous game tab, did not withdraw from the arena and did not realize you got paired. > I lost 50 rating points for a game I didn't even know was on. Is that normal? Currently yes, it is. The high rating loss is because your rating is not established yet --> the system is uncertain about your true strength. > In my opinion, if a player can't make the first move, the game should just be cancelled without any impact on either player's rating. On this I agree, although probably for a reason different than yours. My reason is that rating is not a trophy to show around, rather a metric to pair you with a similar strength opponent the next game. Edit: about my last response, I was referring *only* to the rating part. Obviously, as #2 pointed out, a game must have a result in a tournament.

Thank you for your responses! I didn't realize the rule was different for tournaments. I guess I'll just absorb that loss and keep playing.

Thanks again!

Thank you for your responses! I didn't realize the rule was different for tournaments. I guess I'll just absorb that loss and keep playing. Thanks again!