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Ending the Boycott

community mean political issues of the chess culture are fair "game". If we can't talk about the little social left in the rule set, namely that it takes 2 people to play a game, and then where are we going to find such people, to make some pools.. Don't we want to have ratings? This is right there about politics.. How we deal socially with social issues.

This, here , is not just a pairing game site, or is it.. There is a forum. Well there was a more visible forum, now it seems to be bypassed through blogs, when the authors magnanimously opens them for discussions..

I don't know what kind of politics some are talking about.. If sex or gender and how people behave with each other withing chess related orgarnisation with power structures, is an issue, then I think we ought to have some space where this can be opened to the whole chess community, here being an online subpopulation, maybe with some overlap with that ancestral (:) OTB community.

anytime there are many people. there will be some politics. It does not have to be whole worldview critical and polarizing. We can restrict the scope to chess stuff. As here was. And lichess has various missions as organization, one being of education. I feel a bit more educatd, even if the "scene" or events in question is not of my chess sub-culture (kidding, I just mean my self-centered small online chess activity).

community mean political issues of the chess culture are fair "game". If we can't talk about the little social left in the rule set, namely that it takes 2 people to play a game, and then where are we going to find such people, to make some pools.. Don't we want to have ratings? This is right there about politics.. How we deal socially with social issues. This, here , is not just a pairing game site, or is it.. There is a forum. Well there was a more visible forum, now it seems to be bypassed through blogs, when the authors magnanimously opens them for discussions.. I don't know what kind of politics some are talking about.. If sex or gender and how people behave with each other withing chess related orgarnisation with power structures, is an issue, then I think we ought to have some space where this can be opened to the whole chess community, here being an online subpopulation, maybe with some overlap with that ancestral (:) OTB community. anytime there are many people. there will be some politics. It does not have to be whole worldview critical and polarizing. We can restrict the scope to chess stuff. As here was. And lichess has various missions as organization, one being of education. I feel a bit more educatd, even if the "scene" or events in question is not of my chess sub-culture (kidding, I just mean my self-centered small online chess activity).

@loepare said in #18:

We don't decide what you should watch - we only decide which broadcasts our volunteer(!) broadcast team publishes on lichess.org/broadcast. Anyone was and still is free to create private broadcasts of STLCC and USChess tournaments.

Of course we can watch it elsewhere but this is obviously the best place with the best interface and features. Bottom line, to me at least, is that it looked like lichess doing exactly that; trying to make sure that less people see the games played in St. Louis. So I guess we disagree. At any rate I am glad the boycott is (partially) over.

@loepare said in #18: > We don't decide what you should watch - we only decide which broadcasts our volunteer(!) broadcast team publishes on lichess.org/broadcast. Anyone was and still is free to create private broadcasts of STLCC and USChess tournaments. Of course we can watch it elsewhere but this is obviously the best place with the best interface and features. Bottom line, to me at least, is that it looked like lichess doing exactly that; trying to make sure that less people see the games played in St. Louis. So I guess we disagree. At any rate I am glad the boycott is (partially) over.

@Stormruiter said in #23:

[...] it looked like lichess doing exactly that; trying to make sure that less people see the games played in St. Louis. So I guess we disagree. [...]

That would mean that Lichess shouldn't have sovereignty over its own /broadcast-page just because the decision not to broadcast an event might have the side effect of fewer people watching the games overall? Sounds like a flawed argument.

@Stormruiter said in #23: > [...] it looked like lichess doing exactly that; trying to make sure that less people see the games played in St. Louis. So I guess we disagree. [...] That would mean that Lichess shouldn't have sovereignty over its own /broadcast-page just because the decision not to broadcast an event might have the side effect of fewer people watching the games overall? Sounds like a flawed argument.

I totally applaud the Lichess decisions (to pause, and after relevant changes, resume) cooperatin with STLCC. But no youtube stream link is to be seen on lichess org. It was findable on the chess club site of course.

I totally applaud the Lichess decisions (to pause, and after relevant changes, resume) cooperatin with STLCC. But no youtube stream link is to be seen on lichess org. It was findable on the chess club site of course.

Lichess boycotts US Chess and boycotted STLC for policies, yet allows Russian flag to be used by users when even FIDE does not allow it. Makes perfect sense.

Lichess boycotts US Chess and boycotted STLC for policies, yet allows Russian flag to be used by users when even FIDE does not allow it. Makes perfect sense.

@Shirayukihime said in #26:

Lichess boycotts US Chess and boycotted STLC for policies, yet allows Russian flag to be used by users when even FIDE does not allow it. Makes perfect sense.

Please read this blog to be well informed about how we deal with Russia on Lichess and why your comment is unfounded.
https://lichess.org/@/lichess/blog/lichess-statement-on-the-war-in-ukraine/Yie1MhIA
As you can read there, we also do not officially broadcast Russian Chess Federation tournaments.

As for FIDE: Although Lichess may choose to align some of its policies with FIDE's guidelines/rulings, it is a completely independent organisation and therefore not bound by FIDE's policies for dealing with such issues.

@Shirayukihime said in #26: > Lichess boycotts US Chess and boycotted STLC for policies, yet allows Russian flag to be used by users when even FIDE does not allow it. Makes perfect sense. Please read this blog to be well informed about how we deal with Russia on Lichess and why your comment is unfounded. https://lichess.org/@/lichess/blog/lichess-statement-on-the-war-in-ukraine/Yie1MhIA As you can read there, we also do not officially broadcast Russian Chess Federation tournaments. As for FIDE: Although Lichess may choose to align some of its policies with FIDE's guidelines/rulings, it is a completely independent organisation and therefore not bound by FIDE's policies for dealing with such issues.

The fact that theres bad stuff is actually bad, why do they do that tho?

The fact that theres bad stuff is actually bad, why do they do that tho?

you are a chess site. a service. maybe start behaving like one again. don't bother me with your private politics.

you are a chess site. a service. maybe start behaving like one again. don't bother me with your private politics.

Looks like lichess hired the facebook "factcheckers" who were fired when Trump became president again.

Looks like lichess hired the facebook "factcheckers" who were fired when Trump became president again.